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Multiple Web Hosts for 1 site...Good idea?

WestWingSW

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Hey everyone! Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Wonderful Kwanzaa!

If you've already read this on a different forum, I apologize, but I'm trying to get as much feedback on this tangent I've thought up because I honestly think it might work for me. I want to hear your thoughts though...

Quickly, what I'm looking for in a webhost is over 100 GB a month of transfer (For only about 30 MB of HTML/JPG's) to host my website. I have been looking to alternatives to a dedicated and therefore expensive server but have struck out swinging.

Well, a thought struck me and I was wondering if anyone had any feedback to whether this would ever work.

What if I signed up for hosting on two different servers (Say just for argument LiquidWeb and Tera-Byte) using both servers to host different pages of my site. Between the two, I would have almost enough bandwidth and the two top plans together would be around $60.00 a month and would give me around 70 GB of traffic a month combined.

Is it at all possible to do that? As in, can I direct both LiquidWeb and Tera-Byte to one domain or would I need two separate domains that I could somehow connect? Is it even possible/allowed to host one site on two different web hosting companies?

I know it's not the best plan of action to split up a website among multiple servers, but if I this is doable, it would save me a lot of money each month and I think would work great.

Even taking it a step further, could I do this with free hosting? I'm not saying going to 100 different 1 GB a month hosting companies, but just to cover myself GB wise, if I went to one or two free hosts and stored some pages there, that could work too.

As I said, I have no idea if this is possible/ethical/whatever, but it seemed to be a great idea when it was in my head.

All help, as always, is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

-Scott
 
I don't think thats possible, unless like you said you use two domains, or a third level domain third.domain.com
 
Hmmmm... there is this thing called clustered servers I believe which balances the load over different servers. (I might be wrong here, not a techie) But these things cost tons...

Maybe it's possible tho, when connecting to an IRC network, they have a server pool ie. irc.network.net which connects to a random server... If you could set up a simular service for your websites.... not sure tho...
 
well, this is REAL simple!!!

find a host that (in the hosting plan) allows you to have subdomains, and with each subdomain they give you 20 MBs and 100MB transfer!!

i have seen it in freehosts like atomicrhino.com

so, make a subdomain for yoruself and you have more space, instantly!!
hard part is finding a host that does that... check out atomicrhino.com :)
 
If you have a way to setup custom DNS you could quite easily setup Round Robin DNS. Rather then explain it myself I'll just link to it: http://webopedia.internet.com/TERM/R/Round_Robin_DNS.html

If that's not an option why not just get your own server? I'm not sure how intensive your site is with CGI and such but if a Raq could handle it you may want to just get a dedicated server at TeraByte: http://4webspace.com/main.html

I doubt the ram would be enough, and I'm not personally a big fan of the Cobalt Raq's, but for the price and bandwidth it should work out for you.
 
I myself love the RaQ. Providing you don't over load them they are just as good as any other server. They say no more than 200 sites but personally i wouldnt let more than 60 on mine before getting a second.
 
60 sites?

First, thanks for the info on Round Robin..I'm checking that link out now...

Now, as for 60-100 sites? What do you mean?

I have one site, with about 200 pages of HTML (Between 24-120 KB in size) and 350 JPG graphics of created wrestlers (About 1/2 of which are 7 KB and another 1/4 are 20 KB).

I get 6,000 uniques a day and around 60,000 page views.

Is that overloading the RAQ or am I good?

And, as for getting a dedicated server, here's why I don't want to get one:

I know NOTHING about Dedicated Servers. Nothing. I've been reading about dedicated servers and people are talking about trace routes and pings and I have no clue what any of that means.

Sure, I could buy books (One post somewhere somebody suggested buying $100 worth of books explaining dedicated servers in detail) but I don't have the time nor the inclination to do that.

Plus, if I went with 4webspace.com's RAQ (Which I would) I'd be spending $100 a month, plus either $111 or $389 o.con extra RAM (Which I guess makes the site go faster, although again I'm not familiar with that) plus whatever books/whatever I'd have to get to understand the whole process.

To me, it's worth it to get two or three different highly recommended web servers, get 3 different 40 GB a month packages for pay around $100 for 120 GB a month with all sorts of goodies from those packages and not have to worry about learning about a dedicated server.

I'm really afraid I'd be lost with a dedicated server, while with a virtual one, all I have to do is upload and be done :>.

Thanks everyone for the replies thus far!

-Scott
 
Scott -

The raq would be perfect for you. If you get it from 4webspace.com that is. 128mb ram would be good enough also. the 128mb ram is a one of payment so the first payment would be $210 and after that $99 a month. I've got a server with 4webspace.com and the service is brilliant and since my last server reboot over a week ago my server has been online all the time no downtime.

Scott also if u need any help with ur server i'll glady help you set things up.
 
Listen to Technics. :)

I'd highly recommend going with a dedicated server (Raq or otherwise).

I'm not so sure if most hosts will like you splitting up your bandwidth like that. Even though it may not violate their TOS if you are really taking a lot of the systems resources they will most likely ask you to move elsewhere.

If you have your own Raq server its extremely easy to administer, and is expandable in terms of ram, bandwidth, and more. Think of it this way, you will receive a lot more control for around the same price.

If apache dies you don't have to wait for the host to reboot it, you can log right in and reboot it. Besides upstream network connectivity you have complete control.

Don't worry to much about knowing the server. Most people on message boards would be willing to help you with the server and Technics has already offered to help.

Go with the dedicated server, I think its the smartest choice.
 
Okay, okay I think you folks have sold me. You sure you don't work for Tera Byte? :>

Just a few questions Technics since you have a server on there...Can you get subdomains on that RAQ program? I've been searching all through the 4webspace.com website and can't find an answer to that, or a list of features.

I followed a link to I believe Cobalts webpage and they list some features but didn't list subdomains as one of them.

They also mentioned a mailing list, have you had any experience using it?

I'm just looking at, say Liquidweb's feature list for example, and trying to figure out what I'm getting with the dedicated server and what I'm not since I can't find a feature list on 4webpsace.

Thanks a lot, again, for ALL the help!

OH..And, I'd have to register my domain with either Netowork Solutions or Register.com seperate from TeraByte/4WebSpace correct?

Sorry for asking a ton of questions and I thank you for answering them!

-Scott


[Edited by WestWingSW on 12-26-2000 at 08:55 PM]
 
Update: Chicken just told me that domains are treated the same as subdomains on the Raq so apparently they do offer an interface for it.

If you hosted customers on it they couldn't manage their subdomains, but you as an admin can add subdomains just like domains through their interface.

The rest of my message was removed as it was no longer needed to keep the thread in tact. :)
 
Hi,

Tera-byte can register domains for you i think they charge $12 or $15 a year and from what i've heard they offer a good domain control panel.

Subdomains - Yes you can have subdomains unfortunatly for some reason the subdomain only works without the http://www. putting the http://www. infront will forward the subdomain to the master domain. I've made A records and everything i can think to get it to work with http://www. but it wont :(. Guess next step is to tweak the httpd.conf file.

Adding software to your raq is very simple. login to your admin panel click maintenance and then click install software. Put the address to the box and click install .pkg . This takes a matter of seconds with some software. PHP is the hardest to install as you need some knowledge of telnet. I had next to no knowledge about telnet before i got my server now i know enough to be dangerous :).

Your server would manage nicely on 128mb ram but if you can afford the 256 get it.
 
Originally posted by Technics
Subdomains - Yes you can have subdomains unfortunatly for some reason the subdomain only works without the http://www. putting the http://www. infront will forward the subdomain to the master domain. I've made A records and everything i can think to get it to work with http://www. but it wont :(. Guess next step is to tweak the httpd.conf file.

I'm not sure what you are trying to do exactly, but I successfully set up a subdomain as:

http://www.subdomain.domain.com on my server. Not sure why you'd want this, but it's easily done. Just add the host name 'www.subdomain' and the domain name as 'domain.com' (obviously). Works fine. *scratches head*
 
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