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Reason why I think the NWO is a dumb j0ke.

Darknight

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Ok... no one is trying to mass enslave the entire world but;
Many are making loads of money off our corrupt money system.
Many are making loads of money by supressing clean energy.
All the goverments are complelty screwed and are taking rights away, because YOU let them.

But no, this does not equal enslavement of the human population sorry.
This just equals a time to change the way we do things and reject the things we do not like, peacefully.

And thats all that these people are actually getting, its time for change, this system no longer works, no one really agress with it any more, goverments have become passed the useby date, Australia made that clear last election with a hung palarment, they really dont know/care who to vote for anymore because no one left to speak for them.

We can change this by reforming democracy to allow more parties to have power and also have equal money to promote what they will do, legally binding agreements with the people on their "promises" and the ability to remove any goverment when they lose 70% of the public votes or imprissionment for failing to follow through on all promises. a new electronic like voting system where everyone has a number and pin code, this system would be regulated in such a way to remove any possiblty of corruption, by a set practise of policy (as has been done throughout time with the current voting system, and many other systems).

IE: the goverment could no longer outlaw herbal meds without majority public vote, as the Australian goverment is currently doing today.
The goverment would have to propose to the people the amendments banning said things, BEFORE it could even get word in paralment.

This system is also much cheaper than the current system of mass voting every 4 years at your local school/hall/whatever.
Its only not in place because it removes power from goverment and forces the goverment to fear the people.


I dont really beleive in democracy in its current form.
In the 2 party system it really dont matter whos in power, they still get paid so long as they got heaps of votes, why would they really care? all they care about is reciving a high amount of votes.
A multi-party system would bring far more care factor, if people could vote for any party to be in power (but have the control to also remove them by majority vote) it creates a system of fear within all major parties, I doubt any of them would actually end up with any support at all in the end lol.
 
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That NWO stuff is a bunch of crap. There's a nut job in my town that is on the CB radio with a base station from his house shooting his mouth off about the "New World Order" all day and all night. These people need to be in the loony bin. He swears up and down that the 7-11 gas station is ran by people trying to take over the world because 7+11=18 and 18=6+6+6 (666). Are you serious? He also thinks that Lebron James from the Cleveland Cavaliers is trying to take over the world because his jersey number is 23 and 2/3=.666. Or better yet.... Jay-Z because of his infamous "triangle" hand sign is a representation of the "all seeing eye" which is printed on the back of the $1 bill, therefore, he's a freemason involved in some of secret society.

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This is all just a bunch of rediculous nonsense and people are too paranoid over nothing.
 
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Okay, what deeplist is referring to is schizophrenia-fueled banter.

There's no doubt the rich elite in the US, Canada, and England are trying to get richer at the expense of the poor. Just look at the World Bank and the IMF. Look at what those two institutions have done to countries like Jamaica. Look at what they did to Venezuela before Hugo Chavez freed the Venezuelan people (for those of you still stuck on Fox and CNN, no he's not a dictator. No he's not a tyrant. He's an amazing leader). Look at what they did to Argentina and how it led to the total collapse of their economy in 2001.

The US constitution framed a socialist-inspired democratic republic with a free market. We've transitioned into a plutocratic republic with faint hints of democracy just holding on. Free market would have been fine had corporations not been granted the protections of a person by the supreme court in the 20th century. That decision got the ball rolling to this ---- storm we're in now.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Union, Welfare? Fox News would have torn the founding fathers to pieces had they attempted this in modern times.

In short: No, I do not believe in this Illuminati-style New World Order. Yes, there ARE a (relatively) small group of elite in these three countries who crave money and power at the expense of the people.
 
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Ben said:
Okay, what deeplist is referring to is schizophrenia-fueled banter.

There's no doubt the rich elite in the US, Canada, and England are trying to get richer at the expense of the poor. Just look at the World Bank and the IMF. Look at what those two institutions have done to countries like Jamaica. Look at what they did to Venezuela before Hugo Chavez freed the Venezuelan people (for those of you still stuck on Fox and CNN, no he's not a dictator. No he's not a tyrant. He's an amazing leader). Look at what they did to Argentina and how it led to the total collapse of their economy in 2001.

The US constitution framed a socialist-inspired democratic republic with a free market. We've transitioned into a plutocratic republic with faint hints of democracy just holding on. Free market would have been fine had corporations not been granted the protections of a person by the supreme court in the 20th century. That decision got the ball rolling to this ---- storm we're in now.



Union, Welfare? Fox News would have torn the founding fathers to pieces had they attempted this in modern times.

In short: No, I do not believe in this Illuminati-style New World Order. Yes, there ARE a (relatively) small group of elite in these three countries who crave money and power at the expense of the people.
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Thats my point, our system does have flaws and we need to fix them, its not a NWO, but there is many points in these people that are FACT.

I get mad because these people speaking this crap make it hard for me to point out the facts to people...

Deeplist, can you -----slap that sob TIA.
 
There is no "NWO". Just a bunch of rich individuals who make a lot of money off the present system. Even during the recession, some are making boatloads of money. It's silly to think they are all in one room making decisions...

These rich corrupt kleptomaniacs are being taken down in Northern Africa and the Middle East. Hosni Mubarak was one of the richest men in the world.... with nearly $70 billion in assets. He stole for decades and the United States supported him. Libya's Muammar Qaddafi proclaimed a socialist revolution in Libya, yet went around and stole $30 billion from his own people (in his personal accounts).

The corporations are influencing the politicians in this country, for example with the republican party's assault on the rights of the workers. The biggest problem this country has Europe doesn't, is the lack of a unionized workforce. Some people are so steadfast in their feeble defense of the corporatist political parties in this country... with one being worse then the other.

Hugo Chavez is no hero though. Never was never will be. I say that as a leftist, and as a green. Some leftists oppose him and have received death threats. My kind of leftist are the social democrats in Europe and perhaps the former President Lula Da Silva in Brazil. Lula stood for his people, and pushed social reform. He also pushed alternate green energies and improved the environmental control in a country that was previously operated by corrupt American backed leaders.

I just wish people in the US would wake up and realize that they are supporting bad men who don't care for them. The recent victory of the GOP in the 2010 midterm election was concerning and depressing for me.
 
Gcarini said:
There is no "NWO". Just a bunch of rich individuals who make a lot of money off the present system. Even during the recession, some are making boatloads of money. It's silly to think they are all in one room making decisions...

These rich corrupt kleptomaniacs are being taken down in Northern Africa and the Middle East. Hosni Mubarak was one of the richest men in the world.... with nearly $70 billion in assets. He stole for decades and the United States supported him. Libya's Muammar Qaddafi proclaimed a socialist revolution in Libya, yet went around and stole $30 billion from his own people (in his personal accounts).

The corporations are influencing the politicians in this country, for example with the republican party's assault on the rights of the workers. The biggest problem this country has Europe doesn't, is the lack of a unionized workforce. Some people are so steadfast in their feeble defense of the corporatist political parties in this country... with one being worse then the other.

Hugo Chavez is no hero though. Never was never will be. I say that as a leftist, and as a green. Some leftists oppose him and have received death threats. My kind of leftist are the social democrats in Europe and perhaps the former President Lula Da Silva in Brazil. Lula stood for his people, and pushed social reform. He also pushed alternate green energies and improved the environmental control in a country that was previously operated by corrupt American backed leaders.

I just wish people in the US would wake up and realize that they are supporting bad men who don't care for them. The recent victory of the GOP in the 2010 midterm election was concerning and depressing for me.
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They don't give a damn if the leaders don't care for them as long as they lower trade barriers in the country. Then the US corporations can swoop in, destroy the local economy, and make boatloads of money. Which ends up, partially, in the congresspeople's pockets courtesy of the lobbyists. This is one goal of the IMF and the World Bank. I don't know if they're flat out stupid, which I hope they are, or if it's out of malice and greed, which is the most likely. When loaning money to a third-world country for development purposes, they charge outrageous interest rates and stipulate that the country lower trade barriers with the US. This is why Jamaica is dying.
 
I don't dispute what you're saying, but how you say it.

The IMF and World Bank are declining in importance, as more and more countries simply refuse to pay back loans. Argentina was one example, one I know full well as I lived there when the country collapsed economically in 2001.

Honestly many in the World Bank and IMF had lofty development plans that were simply not suited for certain countries.

And as far as my point about countries with unionized labor forces, these countries typically have happier workers.
 
The Latin American countries at least had enough sense to create their own Bank of the South

We'll see how this pans out. Maybe it'll work, maybe it'll turn into more fat cats
 
Giancarlo said:
There is no "NWO". Just a bunch of rich individuals who make a lot of money off the present system. Even during the recession, some are making boatloads of money. It's silly to think they are all in one room making decisions...

These rich corrupt kleptomaniacs are being taken down in Northern Africa and the Middle East. Hosni Mubarak was one of the richest men in the world.... with nearly $70 billion in assets. He stole for decades and the United States supported him. Libya's Muammar Qaddafi proclaimed a socialist revolution in Libya, yet went around and stole $30 billion from his own people (in his personal accounts).

The corporations are influencing the politicians in this country, for example with the republican party's assault on the rights of the workers. The biggest problem this country has Europe doesn't, is the lack of a unionized workforce. Some people are so steadfast in their feeble defense of the corporatist political parties in this country... with one being worse then the other.

Hugo Chavez is no hero though. Never was never will be. I say that as a leftist, and as a green. Some leftists oppose him and have received death threats. My kind of leftist are the social democrats in Europe and perhaps the former President Lula Da Silva in Brazil. Lula stood for his people, and pushed social reform. He also pushed alternate green energies and improved the environmental control in a country that was previously operated by corrupt American backed leaders.

I just wish people in the US would wake up and realize that they are supporting bad men who don't care for them. The recent victory of the GOP in the 2010 midterm election was concerning and depressing for me.
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I wish people would wake up too..


BUT: I still have a great laugh at the "reptilian" videos on youtube :rolleyes2

Okay, what deeplist is referring to is schizophrenia-fueled banter.
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lol
 
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I don't believe in a NWO in relation to what has been posted in this thread, but I do believe everything isn't as it seems.
 
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