After days hang on this forum, I know lots of host providers now. I know most(maybe half) ppl on this forum are only resellers, some of you don't have one server in your hand, even a VPS.
Yesterday I chatted with a host provider(backycorp.com) on his live support. When I ask about server information like location and spec(CPU,RAM etc), he said his company has over 100 servers, he doesn't remember the special one. What's even worse? When I ask where is the Asia server located(he posted he has UK, US, Asia server arround in his thread every time he shows)? He said that's in HongKong. :lol:
Then by some chance I search "reseller" in the forum, I have my answers. He is just another reseller for hostnine. He doesn't know the server spec, he even doesn't know the Asia server is located in Singapore. All he knows is "all servers have basic two CPUs and more than 2Gb RAM, most are more than that" . That's really "good" answer to customers.
He has a monthly paid reseller account which is only $25/m, contains 25G space and 250G BW, then he sells 3G space and 100G BW at $1/m.
I am not going to talk about his overselling. That's most ppl did in this industry.
Not only him on this forum resells service from other company, I could have a small analysis to conclude this:
1. Resellers who registered at "byet hosting"(US) and "resellercluster"(EU). What can I say, they are free, but they are crab. "byet" has an annoying Vista Panel, slow FTP speed, "resellercluster" only allow php4 also not a good panel for free users. But they just fit to the starters to provide a free service and no need to spend one pence. Anyone knows a page about hosting won't choose them. And what reseller get from "byet"s? Mostly I can see just traffic for your domain. The one who is sitting back of you could counting money but you have to promote hardly to get a paid customer who paid to the company, not u(yes, you get 10%,maybe more of them). After all, you may have some traffic for your domain, then sell it at about 10-100 dollars after one year's advertisement(I know you can make tons of money based on your site, you have your way).
BTW, I think they are not resellers, they are ads for "byet" and others. They don't have any company or space on Internet, yes, I call them ads(just me, not so angry about me). :shame:
I am not saying these resellers are bad guys, if I don't have a pence, I would start from this level as well. I don't need to pay for anything and I don't lose anything.
And I know many ppl will attack about my words for this, but I said the truth. You have your right to attack my words, you could not change the truth.
2. Resellers who has paid account under other companies. They don't have any server or VPS, but they provide better service than the first kind of "resellers". Cpanel or DA are essential tools for them. Overall they could be nice and skillful to run their business for free users and paid users. Maybe half of them earned more than $600 a month, my guess. But the other half are still worrying about next month's bill for account, deciding quit or not, that's a big question.
To those failure resellers: learn more about your upper company(that you choose) before you start, when someone asking you where is your Asian server, tell him it is in Singapore instead of HongKong. When someone asking about your server spec, tell him Intel Q9300 or Intel E5530 with 8GB memory or anything. If you don't know these or don't know how to check these, do your homework first.
3. Those who paid for VPS and dedicated server on internet. Finally you choose this level, you are not a reseller anymore! But there is more ability and responsible you should have. At least you should be an expert on hosting service.
I am not suggesting you which one to choose, everyone has own right to choose which kind server(service) he use.
All service has its own features, the second and third kind of service providers are try to give us cheap and nice quality hosting service, maybe free!!. And the first kind is free and stable, in spite of crab service, they stand still more than 5 years(I mean byet and resellercluster, not the ads, you know).:beer:
Now I can say, most of you here are resellers.
Thx for reading. Have a nice day!
And stay away from 0-0-0webhost. They only allow 6000 files per user. that may just a size of Joomla application(which is about 4000 files).
Yesterday I chatted with a host provider(backycorp.com) on his live support. When I ask about server information like location and spec(CPU,RAM etc), he said his company has over 100 servers, he doesn't remember the special one. What's even worse? When I ask where is the Asia server located(he posted he has UK, US, Asia server arround in his thread every time he shows)? He said that's in HongKong. :lol:
Then by some chance I search "reseller" in the forum, I have my answers. He is just another reseller for hostnine. He doesn't know the server spec, he even doesn't know the Asia server is located in Singapore. All he knows is "all servers have basic two CPUs and more than 2Gb RAM, most are more than that" . That's really "good" answer to customers.
He has a monthly paid reseller account which is only $25/m, contains 25G space and 250G BW, then he sells 3G space and 100G BW at $1/m.
I am not going to talk about his overselling. That's most ppl did in this industry.
Not only him on this forum resells service from other company, I could have a small analysis to conclude this:
1. Resellers who registered at "byet hosting"(US) and "resellercluster"(EU). What can I say, they are free, but they are crab. "byet" has an annoying Vista Panel, slow FTP speed, "resellercluster" only allow php4 also not a good panel for free users. But they just fit to the starters to provide a free service and no need to spend one pence. Anyone knows a page about hosting won't choose them. And what reseller get from "byet"s? Mostly I can see just traffic for your domain. The one who is sitting back of you could counting money but you have to promote hardly to get a paid customer who paid to the company, not u(yes, you get 10%,maybe more of them). After all, you may have some traffic for your domain, then sell it at about 10-100 dollars after one year's advertisement(I know you can make tons of money based on your site, you have your way).
BTW, I think they are not resellers, they are ads for "byet" and others. They don't have any company or space on Internet, yes, I call them ads(just me, not so angry about me). :shame:
I am not saying these resellers are bad guys, if I don't have a pence, I would start from this level as well. I don't need to pay for anything and I don't lose anything.
And I know many ppl will attack about my words for this, but I said the truth. You have your right to attack my words, you could not change the truth.
2. Resellers who has paid account under other companies. They don't have any server or VPS, but they provide better service than the first kind of "resellers". Cpanel or DA are essential tools for them. Overall they could be nice and skillful to run their business for free users and paid users. Maybe half of them earned more than $600 a month, my guess. But the other half are still worrying about next month's bill for account, deciding quit or not, that's a big question.
To those failure resellers: learn more about your upper company(that you choose) before you start, when someone asking you where is your Asian server, tell him it is in Singapore instead of HongKong. When someone asking about your server spec, tell him Intel Q9300 or Intel E5530 with 8GB memory or anything. If you don't know these or don't know how to check these, do your homework first.
3. Those who paid for VPS and dedicated server on internet. Finally you choose this level, you are not a reseller anymore! But there is more ability and responsible you should have. At least you should be an expert on hosting service.
I am not suggesting you which one to choose, everyone has own right to choose which kind server(service) he use.
All service has its own features, the second and third kind of service providers are try to give us cheap and nice quality hosting service, maybe free!!. And the first kind is free and stable, in spite of crab service, they stand still more than 5 years(I mean byet and resellercluster, not the ads, you know).:beer:
Now I can say, most of you here are resellers.
Thx for reading. Have a nice day!
And stay away from 0-0-0webhost. They only allow 6000 files per user. that may just a size of Joomla application(which is about 4000 files).
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