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A lot of free hosts going down?
- Thread starter Schmarvin
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Of course there are also the guys who build a free host then sell it to someone else who eventually ends up closing it down
You are totally right
Seraphim
Active Member
Nothing new IMO. Every 5 months or so, the hosts that seem to advertise the most here and @ WHT all disappear, go under, or get purchased by someone else. Hosting is basically three segments; small individuals running small hosts (like here - most of which will fail), huge host companies (hostgator, godaddy, etc. - these will stick around but offer horrible service and outrageous pricing), and the third category - hosts that are too stubborn to be different so instead stay stable, don't go anywhere, and usually are very fair priced.
Reference this post in one year, and you will see how few hosts fall into that third category
Doesn't even take a year. I noticed another round of host collapses recently, and am not sure if to take it as good or bad news.
Can't help but enjoy the unexpected abundance of available customers. It's good for business, because I'd like to be in that kind that's too stubborn to give in to the modern poor practice and keep my customers going with the old style quality and dependability.
Some of the recent collapses though are surprising, and I have heard that a few of them are going to attempt to rebound as soon as they restructure their service arrangements.
Collapses
It's bad news. Something is happening to the mood here. A batch of established hosts are still around, but the middlerange is dropping out. Have you looked at the ads lately? Everyone is picking Alphabet Soup for usernames now.
"Can't help but enjoy the unexpected abundance of available customers. It's good for business, because I'd like to be in that kind that's too stubborn to give in to the modern poor practice and keep my customers going with the old style quality and dependability. "
Just watch out, that kind of aggressive statement starts to lead to trouble in the net age when rhetoric doesn't die.
It's bad news. Something is happening to the mood here. A batch of established hosts are still around, but the middlerange is dropping out. Have you looked at the ads lately? Everyone is picking Alphabet Soup for usernames now.
"Can't help but enjoy the unexpected abundance of available customers. It's good for business, because I'd like to be in that kind that's too stubborn to give in to the modern poor practice and keep my customers going with the old style quality and dependability. "
Just watch out, that kind of aggressive statement starts to lead to trouble in the net age when rhetoric doesn't die.
Seraphim
Active Member
That's just it though.
The old names are big enough now that they can ride out the bumps without issue, there's enough cashflow to keep them going even with a falloff brought on by the economy.
Small hosts like mine often don't depend entirely on themselves yet, they generate income from other sources to fill in the gaps when not enough profit is made. I work in a factory as an IT person to keep my servers alive, and only in the past week or so have finally started showing progress towards making some money off of this.
But that middle range where the host is too large to be effectively run on one's spare time, and yet still too small to have a whole lot of profitability and reserve cashflow is hit really hard. Rising prices outside and a crunch on time and money team up with the market saturation to put an end to hosts that grew too fast to support themselves.
A lot of other industries are similarly affected- the workshops that were just large enough to self-sustain, but don't have a particularly reliable income or large customer base are collapsing one after another, while the mom & pop stores and the big name franchises are holding on in the storm.
It's all the effects of the economy being unstable, but the people who survive times like this will have a much stronger foothold on their business for when times are good again and will do better in the long run. It's kind of like natural selection.
The old names are big enough now that they can ride out the bumps without issue, there's enough cashflow to keep them going even with a falloff brought on by the economy.
Small hosts like mine often don't depend entirely on themselves yet, they generate income from other sources to fill in the gaps when not enough profit is made. I work in a factory as an IT person to keep my servers alive, and only in the past week or so have finally started showing progress towards making some money off of this.
But that middle range where the host is too large to be effectively run on one's spare time, and yet still too small to have a whole lot of profitability and reserve cashflow is hit really hard. Rising prices outside and a crunch on time and money team up with the market saturation to put an end to hosts that grew too fast to support themselves.
A lot of other industries are similarly affected- the workshops that were just large enough to self-sustain, but don't have a particularly reliable income or large customer base are collapsing one after another, while the mom & pop stores and the big name franchises are holding on in the storm.
It's all the effects of the economy being unstable, but the people who survive times like this will have a much stronger foothold on their business for when times are good again and will do better in the long run. It's kind of like natural selection.
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jphilipson
New Member
There is a reason for it.. it's fun until you run out of money, or the abuse issues take them down. Most people that set up free hosts have no idea what they are doing, and make no money, or have no idea how to secure a server/service properly.
agreed.abuse is a big problem.and securing a server is really hard if you have not enough knowledge
SilverStone
Active Member
Hi all,
FREE hosting company can stay longer if they own or support by established hoster...
FREE hosting company can stay longer if they own or support by established hoster...
Seraphim
Active Member
Yeah. There's no reason why free customers have to bounce from host to host.
It's moreso a matter of a lot of hosts don't manage themselves very well, so when times get tough they collapse in and go out of business. Other free hosts have been around for years and are doing quite well.
Just a question of who can handle the passage of time or not.
It's moreso a matter of a lot of hosts don't manage themselves very well, so when times get tough they collapse in and go out of business. Other free hosts have been around for years and are doing quite well.
Just a question of who can handle the passage of time or not.
PatHIverson
New Member
What are the top free hosts that are available? Consider all factors..
Thanks in advance.
Pat
Thanks in advance.
Pat
Seraphim
Active Member
I don't believe this to be true at all, or else everybody would want to use the Virtualmin panel I have or some other panel. While Cpanel is yet another part of a system that can break, so many hosts use it that for the most part it is a stable time-tested package that only breaks when set up wrong. And that's true of almost any software used in this business, they all break when used incorrectly. You are right about one thing though- hosts that don't have 'annoying' limits as far as resource consumption tend to not live very long because people abuse them.
Now I will point out that the use of Cpanel or one of the paid-license control panels such as DirectAdmin and Plesk adds an overhead cost that can lead a host to ruin if they don't recover their license cost on top of the server cost. In fact that's why I chose Virtualmin over Cpanel, is the fact that Cpanel requires some hundreds/thousands of dollars in licensing for a host of any significant size.
Depends on your needs. Some hosts specalize in turnkey packages- you fill out a form and in a matter of minutes you're logging into your brand new blog for the first time.
Others cater to custom-fit packages and requirements, such as extra services or explicit content. This forum is absolutely loaded with available hosts though, it's a good idea to browse who is out there and ask people what they think of a particular host before making a decision.
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jphilipson
New Member
The problem with cPanel and free hosting is that cPanel accounts are based on a Linux user, where other systems (Layered Panel) etc use virtual users. Since cPanel is based on actual users you cannot get as much density from a single server. With Layered Panel you could have hundreds of thousands of accounts on a single server. With cPanel, ho where near that. The best thing to do with free cPanel hosting is to have lots of smaller servers, instead of one or two huge servers. But yeah, that's a big part of the reason free cpanel hosts come and go - the servers load up and start crashing etc - and if you don't have a lot of experience in how to manage the setup, then you're probably gonna give up.
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I ran my first webhost when I was 16, It was bad lol. I mean bad. I ran it off my own windows 98 computer, I had a .info domain name I got for free, my homepages were one page, frontpage templates. I got hacked almost daily, when I did, Id just resetup and do it again haha. So glad Ive advanced since then. I was one of those fly-by-night host that everyone complains about now lol.
