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Crosswinds Has Been Cheating Death

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It seems like the longest lasting "unlimited space" FWP, Crosswinds.net, is on the verge of death, somewhat. Here is an e-mail I received from Crosswinds' Vice President, Tony Holmes, after I sent him an e-mail concerning the continuing large file download problems (look below dotted line).

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From: Tony Holmes <tony@crosswinds.net>
To: Ryan Mangin <cyberryan26@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Almost One Month after your "service upgrade," and Large Files Still Won't Dl
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:06:14 -0400


On +Jun 13, Ryan Mangin wrote:
> MONTHS already, and I've heard that even your paying members are
> experiencing the same problem. In fact, these problems are so bad that other

That's not true. The b/w limit exists only for free sites and only until we
can get a grip on some warez boys we've been battling.

Just to put it in perspective, we're not out of the woods, fincancially, yet.
I am personally in my 10th month of no paycheque. Still we are not shutting
CW down and since I am the last remaining tech (who is getting sick - something
I can't afford the time for :cool: things are prioritized.

I need to implement anti-warez methods, but don't have the time yet. These
-------s setting up the warez sites increase our bandwidth costs 10x if we
didn't clamp the b/w. That we cannot afford at all. The second we can nail
them effectively, the limit is gone!

> day you guys forced pop-up ads on free sites without warning. Will this
> ever happen?

Hell no. In fact we are still hoping to yank popups. They earn us so little
money it's not funny, but right now, every penny counts. The paid service
is helping and growing as we expected. We will never yank the free service,
but will put more focus on the paid. As the number of paid signups increase,
and the monthly revenues increase, we hire more and put more focus back into
the free sites. As I said in the update, we want GREAT free service and
FANTASTIC paid service. The paid service must come first since people are
paying for it. The free service will hurt for a while until the revenue
from the paid sites increases to a sufficient level. The thing is, if we lose
any more staff at CW, we'll have to shut down - everyone is working for free
right now, so give us a break.

--
Tony Holmes

Senior Systems Architect
Crosswinds Internet Communications Inc.

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So, now you see, unless Crosswinds can get enough suckers to purchase their premium hosting package ($4.99 month + one-time set-up fee of $9.99), they're very much dead where they stand. Like a bunch of others here have already said, host with them at your own risk.
 
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i dunno about that man.. a few of your alter egos had quite a few hissy fits...
 
Well, this time I promise you no more alter egos. From now on, I'll only post here as Cracker. Also, the last time I left wasn't because of anything anyone here said.
 
It is funny to see this happening to Crosswinds. Since the beginning their service has always sucked (personally). I have only one account on crosswinds and it serves me good. Anyways, despite the BS that tony @crosswinds is giving you, if crosswinds dies, someone will follow right behind them.
 
Crosswinds was god. Now they're just a disciple of Jesus, regaining power.... In other words, They're the French Army turning into the American Army. Its a big step up.
 
I agree with Kensuke_Kemachi. Judging from Tony's letter, they'll either succeed with their business plan, like they have in the past, and become truly unlimited again, or they'll lose another CW employee - I believe they've lost at least three in the past six months - and just cease to exist. If the latter happens, they'll go down in internet history as the greatest martyr of the free internet. It's courageous that they'd rather go out of business than actually charge for webspace and bandwidth over a certain amount. I'm currently hosting a copy of my site on CW, but my active copy (ie, the one my cjb.net URL is pointing to) is hosted on NBCi, because they don't have the large file download problems that Crosswinds has. Crosswinds may be the nice guys of the internet, but that doesn't mean a thing if some of my site's files won't download.
 
hey kensuke i just wanted you to know i dislike pittsburgh. i came down there about 2 months ago for training for work although its not my first time there everytime gets worse...lol
 
I've never been to Pittsburgh before, what's it like there?

(BTW, if this thread gets too off topic, I'll have to play "moderator" here and nuke the entire thread)
 
warez.crosswinds = false?

i dunno about this warez business on crosswinds. ive been around the block of the warez industry more than most other people and as far as ive seen there hasnt been anything warez or large program related to crosswinds on any warez site. just adding a little insight. maybe its those bastard canadians. i have no clue. but not american warez sites. not the big-mediocre ones at least. aiight, pizeace.
 
Matt3k: Whats your beef with Canadians? That is kind of harsh to say "bastard canadians". I think you owe us an appology!
 
Re: warez.crosswinds = false?

Originally posted by matt3k
i dunno about this warez business on crosswinds. ive been around the block of the warez industry more than most other people and as far as ive seen there hasnt been anything warez or large program related to crosswinds on any warez site. just adding a little insight. maybe its those bastard canadians. i have no clue. but not american warez sites. not the big-mediocre ones at least. aiight, pizeace.

I don't think Tony Holmes is the type of person who would just lie to my face like that. Besides, I could believe that Crosswinds' offer of free unlimited webspace and bandwidth with unlimited file size could result in a lot of warez hosted sites. I have heard that they're great at deleting such sites, but the warez must be rushing them all at once like they used to rush Worldzone, until Worldzone got a dedicated "warez busters" team. CW would probably do this too, but as Tony said, they're almost running on empty moneywise.

Then again, if matt3k is right, then I'm glad NBCi exists!
 
Free web hosting companies battle warez on a daily basis. Take it from me... the Japanese and other foreign countries use free hosting companies for warez all the time.

I work for one of the top 5 free hosting companies... you'll have to dig deep to find out which... and we battle warez all day. Both warez and porn cost us thousands in bandwidth. We do our best to nuke the chumps quickly, but with millions of sites, it's pretty hard to do.

I can totally see how a small-time free Web space company like Crosswinds is whincing because of warez and abuse issues. They'll be gonzo soon... sorry.
 
The situation has become even worse on Crosswinds. They've now disabled FTP for free members because of warez. Take a look at this quote from their main page:

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June 20, 2001, 10:51am EST - FTP
Well, you can thank a handful of the inconsiderate, idiotic members. FTP is now ONLY available to paid sites. A number of users were creating numerous accounts for warez us. Not just a handful, but HUNDREDS of accounts and handing out the passwords for ftp downloads.
As a result, only paid members will be allowed to use FTP. The rate of abuse for paid members is non-existent since they seem to care as much about following the rules and having a good relationship, than these inconsiderate fools that drive up our costs as they break the law.

We apologize to those it will inconvenience, but we do not have the resources to put into fightings these dimwits at the moment. - Tony

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Still, they continue to cheat death...
 
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