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Innovative idea's...

I believe what gyrbo's main idea was that a lot of free servers have stuff that some people don't use....a user might not use cgi and prefer some more space in return for not using cgi...

All these ideas would be good, but let's see if it can be done or not. Are you up to the challenge?
 
Yeah, good idea, gyrbro. And lets say they get more credits for the amout of traffic they bring, or how long they stay with the host. And I don't think converting it to money would be good, like $3 for this, $2 for that, because like many people on fee hosts, they donn't have the means of getting you the money. Pretty much anyone without a credit card would have this problem. The internet needs more things like Beenz, where you can colect credits, and buy stuff with it online, without ever converting it to real money.
 
I don't understand what all this credit fuss is for. If you want to offer the feature, why ask them to do all this stuff for a simple feature? This will only turn away your visitors. The only site I've seen implement this system successfully is Neopets, but then again, Neopets' users are usually kids who fall for this stuff.
 
I think it would be to confusing for many people, so I want even bother. To tell you the truth, it's to confusing for me :). If I can arrange it, how many MySQL databases should be offered unnder a free plan? how about under a $5 a month plan?
 
About the credit thing...

If it's possible, then you can tempt your members into clicking on your banners by offering 1 credit or point for each click, then when you've collected like 1000 credits you get ad-free hosting for a month or however much clicks is needed to survive for a month, etc. And you can have plans for 2 months, 3 months, a year...

Just an idea.
 
Originally posted by LeX
About the credit thing...

If it's possible, then you can tempt your members into clicking on your banners by offering 1 credit or point for each click, then when you've collected like 1000 credits you get ad-free hosting for a month or however much clicks is needed to survive for a month, etc. And you can have plans for 2 months, 3 months, a year...

Just an idea.

It would be to hard to track individual clicks though. Lets forget the credit idea was ever mentioned. It's to complicated to implement.
 
yeah.....
no early releasing when unprepared...

a good helpful community would be very useful
they can help in support, give ideas, like this...

u should haf something that would encourage users to not kill banners... or if you have a good community u could have systems where posting a msg gets u 1 free kb...

or something like SitepointForums... karma... etc...
 
About the ads...
Why don't you offer your visitors to choose from user placeable banners and one-time pop behinds (that only pop at the first page - you can use cookies for that).
I know that I like one-time popbehinds more than banners. Plus you get more money with the pops.
And just make sure that you offer SSI :)

Here's also an idea:
Offer domain hosting and free webbased email - so that domain users can offer their visitor free email @their site. You can then put banners in the email and earn even more money.
 
Originally posted by bobyx
About the ads...
Why don't you offer your visitors to choose from user placeable banners and one-time pop behinds (that only pop at the first page - you can use cookies for that).
I know that I like one-time popbehinds more than banners. Plus you get more money with the pops.
And just make sure that you offer SSI :)

Here's also an idea:
Offer domain hosting and free webbased email - so that domain users can offer their visitor free email @their site. You can then put banners in the email and earn even more money.

Good post. SSI is a most, so it's included. Signups are automatic, so domain or subdomain, it makes no difference. Online e-mail is a question mark right now. I can't find an easy solution (I'm open to suggestion though). However users will get a free POP3 account with multiple aliases. I'm leaning towards giving the user an option for either once per 12 hour pop ups, placeable banners or an ad bar (Any other options are welcome).
 
Twelve hour popups, in my opinion are good for the user/customer. However, I have trouble seeing how a popup every twelve hours can earn some revenue for you. I'm sure most people click on that little "x" at the top right when they see a new window pop up.
 
That's the main drawback. It's just that unless I get a great CPM deal, banners are just as worthless. My ad bar was a failure, I just don't know of another method that's good for me and the customer. Hopefully someone here has one?
 
I hear that Webdude gets a good click-through rate by placing banners at the bottom of a website. Sorta wierd if you ask me, but perhaps you could get some tips from the pro. ;)
 
Don't think I want to do that. Especially with the banner market as bad as it is. One thing I was contemplating was placeable search boxes. However http://www.ifreepage.com required only a search box and went under pretty quickly. I also had a lot of people tell me how ugly they looked in my ad bar.
 
Originally posted by syanet
I also had a lot of people tell me how ugly they looked in my ad bar. [/B]
It was....

You say the ad company doing the search box died? Thought they would.
 
A search box is just too small. And people just glaze over it without actually knowing it's there. Perhaps a search box under a banner? That would generate revenue, but then again, such a large thing would turn me off...
 
The popup actually are one of the most effective ways...
I have popups only on my main page and I get about 60 or 70 popups on 100 visitors. I earn way more than with banners.
There was a thread about ad networks for FWP's in the "Ad revenue" forum and people said that it's almost impossible to get accepted.
 
Popups, may be effective. But I'm sure absolutely no one would sign up for such a service. (Ok, perhaps I'm exaggerating a little, but no much.)

No users = no popups shown = No money = Dead FWP. It's as simple as that.
 
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