Erudnet Down !!!

[robert allen]

Why did you diss someone who was 17. I am only 15 and that is like saying the younger the worse.

Firstly, this site does not look bad and i made it from a template: www.pcwebtalk.com
I use a CMS for www.teenout.com, but still, does it look as crap as other teenchat sites?

hottweelz, i added you to MSN yesterday to get hosting from you, i have not changed my mind, and i am still interested, but i personally feel that you have to be careful what you say otherwise you will get someone like me which currently did not have any relevence to the convosation will join in. I feel that the way you termed and phased the paragraph is bound to offend more than 1 person, me.

I personally feel that it is silly when 2 business argue, if i was alex dew i would sue every other milliondollarhomepage project, but he is kind and he understands that there are more than 1 person in the world, unlike microsofts bill gates.

One day, i think one of the above hosts will end up out of business. After all, the hosting industry is very competitive.

 

[WL-Michael]

I'm 100% sure that you're sad

Nah,

Honestly, I'm not like a few backstabbers around here that just want to make a quick buck by someones elses hardships... I honestly wish each person here the best of luck.

 

[macgyver]

Yep, sorry about the glitch, a simple reboot request authentication failed, so more bureaucracy caused the reboot to take a while. Everything should be fine, although Primus was fine to start with, so those users are unaffected.

Shouldn't happen again in the future, we've got a better service monitor going

As for erudnet, I think it's been explained before about what happened, but you can contact us at sales[at]polurnet.com with your info, and we'll explain the situation.



Stay away from rumors, that is highly inaccurate oversimplified statement.

Regards

Hi ,
I have 2 resellers account in Erudnet ... and many websites.
I paid both for full one year.
What is the story now ?
I need my business running ....
Please advise ...
thanks

 

[PolurNET]

My customers know that I'm a strict, blunt, sometimes rude, bastard. He has 20 posts under his belt and tried to pull off an attitude on PunkFan91.
Punkfan brought up a valid post and had no reason to be turned on.

Then he goes as far as UtzCrazy and says "Why are you picking on me?"

Furthermore, 17 is ONE year shy of being an adult, and about 15 years shy of properly running a business.

I am who I am, most people don't like me, about three people here do like me.

Use the search function. I shut hosts down. Literally. My customers love me.

It's 2am. Goodnight.

You yourself Dub, will learn to walk on broken glass around me.

******Edit: FWS accounts for about 3% of my customers. I'm here to talk / debate / argue / ally with other hosts. Don't rely on FWS to start a business... close shop now if you're worried about your "customers" here.

Now who exactly is 17 here? Definately not me, may want to check your misinformation and clarify it with yourself. However, your lack of situational comprehension and meddling into other's business does tend to reflect these characteristics. I'm clearly not intimidated by your "shutting hosts down slogan" we've been established for quite a while in other forums, and FWS was merely another place to expand our services.

And who is this Punkfan? That post I made referred to "utcrazy" who has posted a similar remark in another thread, which I mentioned was deleted for certain reasons.

Not here to argue, but certain FWS members unfortunately have a lot to learn about proper business ethics, and should try to prevent exchanges of insults here, especially on this thread that has no need for such behaviour. Nevertheless, my points remain valid, and as far as we're concerned, the OP has contacted us and we have explained the situation to him.

Case closed

PS: Dub is right about us primarily joining this forum for clarifying the erudnet story, yet it seems jealousy and the need to bash prevails here for no apparent reason.

 

[macgyver]

Hi All,
I contacted Polurnet ... below is their reply.
I am still not satisfied and try to follow up the matter regarding the payment I already paid and ... the last back up ... as I have invested big time and effor to build my business ( websites )

I pray .. they still have the back up from their last back up .... better that nothing ......

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Editted : PolurNET is currently following up the matter
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[heymrdj]

My customers know that I'm a strict, blunt, sometimes rude, bastard. He has 20 posts under his belt and tried to pull off an attitude on PunkFan91.
Punkfan brought up a valid post and had no reason to be turned on.

Then he goes as far as UtzCrazy and says "Why are you picking on me?"

Furthermore, 17 is ONE year shy of being an adult, and about 15 years shy of properly running a business.

I am who I am, most people don't like me, about three people here do like me.

Use the search function. I shut hosts down. Literally. My customers love me.

It's 2am. Goodnight.

You yourself Dub, will learn to walk on broken glass around me.

******Edit: FWS accounts for about 3% of my customers. I'm here to talk / debate / argue / ally with other hosts. Don't rely on FWS to start a business... close shop now if you're worried about your "customers" here.

I hate it when old people think they are better than everyone else. You older hosts never learn and never listen to what might have been your future customers. This will be your down fall.

 

[LSComputers]

Ouch Macgyver, looks like you may end up screwed, lets hope that polurnet will learn to accept the clients as is, if you buy out a company, you accept the cleints packages, shouldnt be making them purchase new packages. thats just not fair to the clients.

 

[PolurNET]

Ouch Macgyver, looks like you may end up screwed, lets hope that polurnet will learn to accept the clients as is, if you buy out a company, you accept the cleints packages, shouldnt be making them purchase new packages. thats just not fair to the clients.

For giving the beneift of the doubt, I'd appreciate if you and the others would read the Erudnet's owner's post carefully before hastily making accusations or remarks about us : http://freewebspace.net/forums/showpost.php?p=656893&postcount=16

Again, we are doing our best to accomodate all customers, and so far most erudnet customers with the exception of 2 or 3, have agreed with our position completely and appreciate the custom offers we have provided them. Since every case is different, it is clearly not right to jump into overgeneralized conclusions.

 

[LSComputers]

Dont realy on that to save you, your still responsible to accomidate all clients, shouldnt be charging them more, or making them order new packages when they spent over id atleast say 50 dollars per account to run there own business, how would you like it if the datacenter said "o new host, you owe us $3000, or were not giving you the servers witch you need or your clients will leave"? thats the same situation as with these clients.

 

[Decker]

Good point JD, when I still hosted I did a takeover and the costs were not passed onto the existing clients - in fact in the end they got an increased package.

On a takeover you should at least honour the existing contract, as that's what they are contracts.

The clients don't normally have a say in a takeover and there usually a very good reason for that takeover. If you decide to complete a takeover transaction remember one thing - the clients of that takeover are part of the 'good will' value of the company, don't lose that.

 

[James]

In the end just better not take over a new host with a couple of clients and have been around for a few months for fun.

Such hosts, if they feel like stopping should actually pay other hosts to take over and take care of those poor clients.

PolarNET I don't think is being unreasonable, but I do believe they brought this on themselves by taking over what looks like several ERudnet clients. They could have just waited for new clients instead.

But we shouldn't give PolarNET the stick, this is their business they are allowed to do what they feel is right. They know their own situation better than we do.

 

[PolurNET]

Good point JD, when I still hosted I did a takeover and the costs were not passed onto the existing clients - in fact in the end they got an increased package.

On a takeover you should at least honour the existing contract, as that's what they are contracts.

The clients don't normally have a say in a takeover and there usually a very good reason for that takeover. If you decide to complete a takeover transaction remember one thing - the clients of that takeover are part of the 'good will' value of the company, don't lose that.

Considering we did issue refunds to several customers, and credits according to what they paid, I think our position is justified, and follows your suggestions. The OP did not let us know on his first message to us about how much he spent on his package with erudnet, and that's something we're discussing with him currently.

However, as for the renewal policy (when their erudnet package term expires), that is something we have the ability to change, and that is what we have explained in several posts. If we start to consider extending the former erudnet packages for the life of their account as well, not only would it have a major negative impact on the services they receive, it would also create the same problems erudnet already had and go beyond the sustainability of any decent webhosting service. That is the reason we're trying to compromise and come to a suitable agreement with every customer to the best of our abilities.

 

[Decker]

I agree with what has been said in the above 2 posts.

I've always tried to look at it from the clients side - what if your rent or mortgage went up, your car payments, fares to work, etc. - you'd feel hard done to. It's the same situation.

I don't intend to confuse or make anything worse, just my own thoughts on making things a more 'soft hit' from the clients point of view. It does get appreciated and can increase the 'good will' value as a company asset.

 

[James]

I hate it when old people think they are better than everyone else. You older hosts never learn and never listen to what might have been your future customers. This will be your down fall.

Yes Heymrdj,

But I think what is definately worse is "newbies" pretending to know what they are talking about.

 

[Decker]

Originally Posted by heymrdj
I hate it when old people think they are better than everyone else. You older hosts never learn and never listen to what might have been your future customers. This will be your down fall.

I suggest you read the post above james too - I'm one of those (used to be till ill health from working 18 hours a day 365 days a year to make sure clients were taken care of) 'older hosts'.

That comment is just plain insulting to many people, and completely uncalled for.

 

[leyther]

I hate it when old people think they are better than everyone else. You older hosts never learn and never listen to what might have been your future customers. This will be your down fall.

I hate it when crappy little children get a free belgian domain then use nameservers which point to chinese porn sites before redirecting to a resellerspanel host 5 seconds later.

Forum link is dead by the way,

Also we got new plans "game servers,game clans,shoutcast" and more!

Nice to see your clients can be assured of a host who has language qualifications

Call yourself a host, sheesh - be a bit more professional, at least have an email address associated with your website instead of your gmail one to take orders! :shame:

Come back when you have some maturity and are willing to treat others as you expect to be treated yourself

 

[utcrazy]

I would personally just like to give PolurNet two thumbs up for the way the acted and reacted to some people's comments (including my own) about some of their business tactics. I think they are just receiving a lot more blame then they should be for clearly the DC's or pervious owners errors. But as much as I hate big corporate giants, PolurNet did take a step in the right direction by coming here and defending themselves as much as possible. Now I know this may just sound like a sad attempt to win some points, but I really do believe in this. So again, good luck PolurNet and all previous Erudnet clients, hopefully this does get sorted out. Some people like it when hosts go down, I used to be one of them, but I now realize every time a kiddy host goes down (not erudnet to be clear) it taints their impression on the hosting business all together.

Just my two cents.

Ciao.

 

[PolurNET]

I would personally just like to give PolurNet two thumbs up for the way the acted and reacted to some people's comments (including my own) about some of their business tactics. I think they are just receiving a lot more blame then they should be for clearly the DC's or pervious owners errors. But as much as I hate big corporate giants, PolurNet did take a step in the right direction by coming here and defending themselves as much as possible. Now I know this may just sound like a sad attempt to win some points, but I really do believe in this. So again, good luck PolurNet and all previous Erudnet clients, hopefully this does get sorted out. Some people like it when hosts go down, I used to be one of them, but I now realize every time a kiddy host goes down (not erudnet to be clear) it taints their impression on the hosting business all together.

Just my two cents.

Ciao.

Wow, I must say I'm really pleased by your positive reply. It's usually hard for competing businesses to understand one another, but I very much appreciate your change of position and understanding. I too believe this situation can also be rectified with mutual comprehension of each other's opinions, as is the case here.

Wish you the best of luck and success as well

 

[heymrdj]

I hate it when crappy little children get a free belgian domain then use nameservers which point to chinese porn sites before redirecting to a resellerspanel host 5 seconds later.

Forum link is dead by the way,



Nice to see your clients can be assured of a host who has language qualifications

Call yourself a host, sheesh - be a bit more professional, at least have an email address associated with your website instead of your gmail one to take orders! :shame:

Come back when you have some maturity and are willing to treat others as you expect to be treated yourself

Yes the forum link is dead because we are making a new forum. Want something different than gmail fine.
To conduct sales talks email the sales staff at sales@revolutionaryhost.be or IM me at heymrdjCW@aol.com, or letdadjplay@yahoo.com
Wanna talk to me about changes? Talk to me at admin@revolutionaryhost.be
I don't know what your talking about the redirections? I type in my address and it goes straight to there. But if you guys see a problem let me know and I'll look into it.
The homepage was a rush job I'll admit cause we needed to get online quickly, but new information and plans are being worked out.
As for treating others as I would have someone treat me, I'm about the only person (there are a few others) that does not go off spouting why my competition sucks. I respect the people here that respect me. but if you go of dissing me for my age, I will treat you the same. As far as I can see it, I treat others as they treat me.

But anyways I wish polourNet the best of luck on their endeavors. They are a good company, but the've hit a little snag. But they'll get through it quite easly I'm sure.

 

[Decker]

I'm about the only person (there are a few others) that does not go off spouting why my competition sucks.

No your not - again insulting others without cause.

Also looks like you ripped a comercial site - http://www.webpage-maker.com/ do you have permission to use the template of this site?

And didn't even be professional enough to hide the fact.

Revolutionary Host! Revolutionizing the way you look at hosting!

Yep! it certainly has.