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xicex

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So what is with web hosting TOS having all these wacky conditions?

I understand not allowing illegal content (pirated/unauth reprod of copyright/child porn)
but...

No image uploading websites?
No proxy scripts?
"No proxies" - not even defined, vague.
You may not use to distribute software
You can't over use FTP?
In the case of overuse of resources, we can shut you down at any time and keep your money, where overuse is decided by us and is not defined.
You may not upload images.
You may not use your plan to serve media includes GIFS, videos. We are not a media sharing hosting.
No legal pornographic content.

And giving 1000 GB space 10000GB Bandwidth/month.
and coming up with a tos/aup that is not linked to or displayed anywhere on page sign up or on the main frontpage that has a list of conditions that prevent you from doing anything useful besides having a static html page that says hey grandma's on the internet.

Seems like its just to make sure that you cannot actually use any amount of resources nearing the amount you supposedly purchased.

Makes no sense to not allow video upload on space you purchased and bandwidth you purchased.
You can use use your 10000GBs of storage and bandwidth, but only on html or plain text files, and files may not be larger than 20kb, and we have a file quota of 100 files. Uploading more than 100 files to your hosting space will result in termination without notice nor refund.
 
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makes no sense, but i obvioiusly i understand that this way of business is good to make money
so hostgator does "unlimited! max everything, you got it" and probably terminates that websites that use a good amount of resources. and keeps the low resource using ones and stack them thousands per server.
 
Don't go with "unlimited" hosting in the first place. There is no such thing.

As far as the other items in the TOS, you have to do it to protect yourself and your other clients. The problem with shared hosting is that clients think they can do whatever they want on the account. They use resources that you would normally use a dedicated server for, and expect to get that for $2 or $3 every month. It happens all the time. They want to run Youtube clone sites (which absolutely eat the processor), they want to run file download sites, proxies (which are normally used for illegal content, and always consume huge amounts of bandwidth), etc.

If you don't protect yourself and the rest of your clients, you get a small handful of people who eat all the resources on the server. If you want dedicated resources, you need a dedicated server.
 
I have never seen a host that will not allow you to upload images. Image hosting sites like photobucket I can understand, but none whatsoever? Never heard that.

Proxy scripts, from my understanding, are resource intensive. Same with some chat scripts. Software distribution is usually some sort of DL site, most of which is likely pirated but again, most sites do not allow a DL site. Most of which you listed as the "huh?" type stuff is pretty common for disallowed material.
 
Like what wswd and Sain Cai said, it is a normal practice that a host do not allow proxy site, as proxy site is not only resource intensive, it does bring possibilities that abusers use the proxy to do something nasty, and cause the host to be blamed.

While for upload video, usually host restrict that users to not run a youtube type of site, due to resource intensive, and avoid copyrighted videos, such as some movies and drama to be uploaded to the server, and caused complain from DMCA.

while image hosting, actually not all host don't allow that. some host do allow image hosting site.
 
xicex said:
And giving 1000 GB space 10000GB Bandwidth/month.
and coming up with a tos/aup that is not linked to or displayed anywhere on page sign up or on the main frontpage that has a list of conditions that prevent you from doing anything useful besides having a static html page that says hey grandma's on the internet.

Seems like its just to make sure that you cannot actually use any amount of resources nearing the amount you supposedly purchased.

Makes no sense to not allow video upload on space you purchased and bandwidth you purchased.
You can use use your 10000GBs of storage and bandwidth, but only on html or plain text files, and files may not be larger than 20kb, and we have a file quota of 100 files. Uploading more than 100 files to your hosting space will result in termination without notice nor refund.
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That is exactly it! They use the large numbers to drag you in and then put so many limitations on it preventing you from using it. That is how they make their money!

I just wish everyone could see that
 
Lol, looks like a host that uses an "unmetered" master reseller.
They have the most weird looking TOS's on the web.
 
sander k said:
Lol, looks like a host that uses an "unmetered" master reseller.
They have the most weird looking TOS's on the web.
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Yeah, it seems like is those cheap price but "unlimited" master resellers.
Just like what Flyhost is using.
LOL
 
How is it that there is no such thing as unmetered bandwidth or unlimited diskspace? I know physically the hard drives have a capacity. The servers ISP most likely has a cap on transfer rate. But if the agreement is unmetered bandwidth and they suspended your account say 10 gigs they would be breaking the agreement. But how can there be not such a thing. If the services provider does not meter bandwidth then there is unmetered bandwidth.
 
There is such a thing as unmetered bandwidth, but unmetered is not unlimited, because you are limited by the port speed. I.e. unmetered on a 100mbps port.

The problem is that people try to apply that idea to shared/reseller hosting and it just doesn't work. Fine for VPS/dedicated, not fine for shared hosting.
 
Oh speed. Not data transferred. I see the bandwidth is bits per sec. I was looking at like they are advertising unlimited bandwidth as monthly transfer.
 
ttb62 said:
Oh speed. Not data transferred. I see the bandwidth is bits per sec. I was looking at like they are advertising unlimited bandwidth as monthly transfer.
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Well, unmetered data transfer is going to be limited by the port speed. So port speed and data transfer are directly related when you're talking about an unmetered connection. Since there is no such thing as an unlimited port, or an unlimited bandwidth connection in the datacenter, there is no such thing as unlimited data transfer. Anyone advertising unmetered means that there is no set amount of data transfer...but you're still limited by something...in the case of data transfer, the speed of the connection.

Taking a VPS for example, you might get an unmetered 100mbit shared connection. What does that mean? Your VPS will share 100mbit connection with however many other VPSs are on the server, however, at the most, you will be able to use the full 100mbit connection. In fact, since most dedicated servers don't have dedicated bandwidth connections, chances are the VPSs on your server are going to be sharing that bandwidth with whatever other dedicated boxes are on the switch as well. If allowed to use the entire connection, you'd be talking somewhere around 25TB of data (full duplex). Notice, even though it's unmetered, it's still not "unlimited". There is absolutely a limit. There is always a limit, even on unmetered connections.

Same goes for a dedicated 100mbit unmetered connection. If it's truly dedicated bandwidth, you'll get your 25-ish TB of full duplex bandwidth monthly. There is nothing "unlimited" about it.
 
I think that advertising a package plan the word bandwidth is used incorrectly at some websites. example 125mb landing page. the free plan states 5 GB's Bandwidth. I seen other site state the same thing. So when you reach 5 gig your account gets suspended. So if the same plan stated Unlimited Bandwidth the account would not get suspended. So sometimes the term bandwidth is referring to the amount of data that has been transferred. So there could be an unlimited amount of data transfer? correct? Just the transfer rate can not be unlimited. 99 kps would take longer to transfer 100 MB of data then 1 mbps would.
 
un·lim·it·ed/ˌənˈlimitid/
Adjective:

Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
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ttb62: Your statement goes against the definition of unlimited. If there is ANY type of limit be it size capacity total transfer number of connections ANYTHING then its not unlimited!
 
is data transfer different the bandwidth? I believe it is different. now I may be wrong but bandwidth is the rate of data that is being transferred per second. yes that is throttled by the bandwidth. Be it the clients ISP and the servers ISP. data transferred is the total amount data transfer in a set amount of time. yes if the bandwidth is not as broad then it will take longer. But if I am allowed to transfer as much data as I want "unlimited" I can only do it at the speed the bandwidth allows. It is throttled down by bandwidth. I can still have a unlimited amount at that speed.

OK I see what your saying now if the bandwidth was full bore, wide open then in thirty days I could transfer 16 TB, but since it is restricted by bandwidth I could only transfer 8 TB in 30 days.

so unlimited should be replaced with "how ever much you can get with the bandwidth restrictions". It takes me longer to understand. My bandwidth is restricted.
 
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