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mr.d1n1 said:
so you're running linux I assume?
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Duuuh!

influct said:
The huge major whacking great asscracking flaw of linux is this:
software.
(and ms proper gander)
I have experienced both of these OS's and i can safely say that if i buy a piece of software it will WORK with windows, sadly the same cannot be said for linux.
While it truly is an exceptional desktop it cannot compete with microsofts millions which allows it to create contracts.
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Buy? Why do you need to buy anything for linux? There are free alternatives avaliable, always - always.

influct said:
If commercial software was released for linux more often
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OMG, what the hell is wrong with you? Do you have some weird fetich, with having to pay for software, which has better, free alternatives?


Anyway, windows just can't compete with Linux, it has one click program installation, automatically updates all software on your system, and it's features are insane.

How do people on windows survive without multiple workspaces, how? I'll never know....
 
Been testing Vista Enterprise and I hope to 'enter deity here' that it doesn't take off till it's something more than a nice way to increase system resource requirements. Tested on a 2G Intel Duo with 2Gb RAM and it really doesn't merit an upgrade (the ME reference in IMO is quite accurate), admittedly the Ent version is stripped for commercial use but I still can't find anything redeeming. 2K was a good update to NT4 which was long overdue an overhaul so that one worked for me, XP brought 2K to the masses, Vista - jury still out deliberating oldman2

For the *NIX & MS bashers alike, if you like your OS then good for you, but appreciate other peoples opinions, simply saying one is bad compared to another just shows a lack of exposure to both over many differing situations. :)
 
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Starcraftmazter said:
Duuuh!



Buy? Why do you need to buy anything for linux? There are free alternatives avaliable, always - always.



OMG, what the hell is wrong with you? Do you have some weird fetich, with having to pay for software, which has better, free alternatives?


Anyway, windows just can't compete with Linux, it has one click program installation, automatically updates all software on your system, and it's features are insane.

How do people on windows survive without multiple workspaces, how? I'll never know....
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fetish dear, fetish. (surely you should know that since i assume your running firefox 2.0 with built in spell checker?:angel:)
But b.o.t
There are free alternatives but they are not as good.
openoffice, its good and great but my copy of office 2004 was £20 and most people will agree, its better.
adobe photoshop, i paid a fair bit for this but it was worth it! Nothing else compares
Macromedia suite - I plan on buying this. Nothing compares

The fact is you get what you pay for and while the price difference is not always worth it when you buy everything second hand or OEM its much more sensible and it is worth it.

Yeh my bad i forgot about some of the far cheaper stuff. But the majority are bundled with windows, just look at dell.

The an add-on from Microsoft that allows multiple workstations (yes i know its an obvious rip)
but I use that.
 
I'm not going to upgrade to Vista until the Games demand it, so, pretty much instantly, i'm going to be forced to upgrade -.- DirectX 10 looks sweet though.
 
Yer, but I don't have any dictionaries installed, and I know how to spell fetish, just not type it, anyway.....

openoffice is easily better.
photoshop, well you can do all the same with gimp if you 'gots teh skill'.

I've never heard of this ad-on, and I wouldn't want to use microsoft's crappy ports.

And thats another thing....everything runs slower on windows, because it's designed to run on linux, and larer ported to windows.

Some good examples are;
openoffice
firefox
thunderbird
apache
php
mysql!!!

Huh? Huh?
 
I'll grant you the web dev stuff. I guess it really depends on what you want it to do. But i promise you photoshop is better than gimp end of its not a question of skills, its the industry standard and with good reason. There is so much that just works. I'll grant you though, there not a cat in hells chance you'd catch me running windows on a server, where as i do own a linux pc (dosn't get used much though)
 
There is a special wine-like thing called codeweavers I think, specifically for things like dreamweaver and photoshop, it costs - but if you own software like that it's not a problem, and it works very well.
 
Starcraftmazter said:
Uhhh pardon? Are you calling me a liar?



Like talking to yourself? They have heaps of benefits. They make it insecure so they can sell security software, etc.
And that's besides the point, their software engineers are incapable of making it secure, which was my point.



That's not an opinion, that's fact. Why don't you do some reading, all the major AV vendors are pissing off at Microsoft for this exact reason.



Uhhh no. Clearly, you know nothing about computers, as you so wrongly think minimum requirements actually mean something.

Simcity 4's minimum requirements are 1ghz cpu and 256mbs of ram. And recommended is 2ghz 512mb. Yet that is a joke, as anyone who knows simcity4 well, will tell you it needs a 3ghz+ and at the very least 2gbs of ram, and likewise same thing here.



The large majority of servers run on Linux, because it's by far the most stable OS. Google runs their 200,000 servers on Linux. Most webhosts run linux servers. You should know, just by being on FWS.

As for desktop, windows is a completely joke. Ubuntu is infinitely better AND easier to use than windows.
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Google runs on google os?:eek:
 
Tree said:
Theoretically, yes. It's a highly modified version of Linux, as is OS X.
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No.
It runs on linux full stop.

Linux OS is something built on the linux kernel, it doesn't matter how modified it is.....it's still linux.
The whole idea of linux distros, is that you take the linux kernel, and then your build an OS to your specific needs using it. This is exactly what google has done, and this is exactly what hundreds of other groups/people have done, and it's still all called linux. There are no different "levels" of modification.

OS X isn't built on the linux kernel, it's built on the XNU kernel.
 
Tree said:
Unix > Linux > BSD + Mach > XNU > OS X

So, we're both right.
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In a way, perhaps.

I would say that's a history tree more than anything.

I mean, you can't say that the linux kernel was build over or is a modified version of the unix kernel.

You can say it was inspired by it, you can say it was designed to work in a similar way - in fact that's it's exact purpose, but saying much more than that I think would be taking things a little too far.

Likewise, xnu I believe is quite some distance from having much to do with linux.
 
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